I have a Linksys 5 port workgroup I just bought. An ethernet card in each computer and my theory of the linkup being used for a cable connection not happening. I thought of myself as computer inclined till I read some of the stuff you guys posted and I felt dumb, heheheh. I need help in hooking up these things using my RR connection. Could you please specifically tell me how to do this and I mean SPECIFICALLY... I am using win98. I am trying to use just what I have without spending more cash so anything you guys tell me I will do to the t.
RoadWarrior
October 22nd, 2000, 09:54 PM
The bad news is that RR only gives you one IP address (although they would be glad to sell you another for a modest monthly fee). If both of your PCs are set up properly, then the first one to ask for an IP would get one, and the other will be left out. There are several ways forward, but the first thing is: does it work at all?
It sounds like you are getting nothing. If that is the case then make sure that you aren't using the port right next to the uplink. On many inexpensive hubs, the uplink shares the first or last port, so you can't use both at the same time.
Work to get the cable modem, and one PC working with the hub. If you have two normal patch cables then your description is a good one: cable modem to uplink, normal port to PC. If you are a new roadrunner user, just remove the hub from the equation, and hook straight from a PC to the modem for troubleshooting.
In fact, that brings us to your next problem: in order to share your internet connection you will need routing hardware or software. Windows98 ICS (internet connection sharing)is one way to go. In this scenario, you would designate one PC as the master, and hook the cable modem to a NIC in it. Then you would use a second NIC in the same machine to hook to your hub. All other workstations would hook to the hub. Your master PC would provide DHCP services (an IP address) to all the other stations, and route packets from and to them for internet use. Another answer is to use a hardware router (linksys makes a nice one) instead. In this scenario, you would hook your cable modem to the WAN port on the router, and your other PCs to the LAN ports on the router.
There are other software solutions which would not require the addition of hardware....just additional software, Sygate comes to mind.
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B4TMANN
October 27th, 2000, 12:09 AM
I would definately go with the Linksys Cable Modem/DSL router. I have RoadRunner and that is what I use. It works flawlessly....and for only about $150. It will also help greatly, acting as a small firewall to guard from the outside world...which is good with an always on connection.
My two cents...
Good Luck,
-B4TMANN
Jeffy79
October 27th, 2000, 03:41 AM
OK "Details"
I am new to Networking but I have gotten quite used to it, and boy is it ever fun. HEHE I find myself thinking "what could I network next?" Anyhow to my understand you are wanting to have a workstation, and server type deal? RR connected to the server? If not, well your out of luck as Roadwarrior said. But if you want to do it the way I said this is what you do. Get yourself www.sygate.com (http://www.sygate.com) and download the program. If you want, use the crack so you don't need the bs of registering http://discussions.hardwarecentral.com/smile.gif. I would give you the site name, but not sure of TOS. Anyhow enough of the bs...
Take your Workstation and your Server add 192.168.0.1 as your server ip set the DNS as 255.255.255.0
If you wonder where to find this, go to
>Start>Settings>control panel>Network>TCP/IP You should see TCP/IP for your network card, click on properties for that. Now enter what i said in. On your workstation do this, go to the same place. But enter in 192.168.0.2 If you want more comps in the future, just add 192.168.0.3 and so on. Now on your workstation you must do this, atleast I had to since I use a hub too. Go under gateway, put in your servers ip, which will be 192.168.0.1 and add then go to dns and put in you servers name, which in my case is Jws479, you can find this under indentification in this same area, look at your server though, not your workstations identity. Now enter that in. Leave domain alone. But add in the servers ip. Once you do this your server will restart. Now once your back in make sure you install netbeui, and ipx/spx and restart, but let it finish until the dialog boxes go away. Once you do this, your 90% done. Now restart as it will ask you. Once your back in lets review first.
Server should have the following settings ONLY.
Server:
Netbeui
IPX/SPX
TCP/IP for the network card
IP should be under TCP/IP
IP: 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
This should be it, leave gateway and dns alone on your server. Remember the server has your rr connection currently.
Workstation.
Netbeui
IPX/SPX
TCP/IP
Now with this you should have the following under tcp/ip for the network card.
IP: 192.168.0.2
Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
Gateway:
192.168.0.1
DNS Directory:
Server name ( )
Domain should be blank
Server IP: 192.168.0.1
If these are exact, then your 90% http://discussions.hardwarecentral.com/smile.gif.
Now onto ICS.
Go to www.sygate.com (http://www.sygate.com) and download the program, I use it and IMO its really good. If you have problems, get WIN98 SE or WinME and install Internet Sharing from there. Otherwise use sygate. Now once you do this, get the crack. If you want the link e-mail me at jws479@global2000.net and ill give it to ya. Now once you get all of this setup, you should be golden.
Now one thing I almost did was get a static ip from my Dial up ISP. But he said, try putting in your proxy server ip. You see this can be confusing. Whats a proxy server? Simple, its your program that you use for internet sharing. Well since its on your server, anywhere you see proxy server, enter your server's ip in. I had to do this with my webcam, I have one on one computer I had to figure a way to upload over the network to my isp account space. I entered the proxy and bingo it work great. So if your ftp allows you to enter in where it says proxy name. I think ICQ has it, but don't take my word for it. This way you don't need ip's issued to you from your isp, which will add cost. AHHHHHHHH I went on and on http://discussions.hardwarecentral.com/smile.gif. But you get what im tryin to teach ya. So good luck, its not hard and once you get used to it, you will be wanting to network your town! hehe its fun!
JW
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Jeffy79
October 27th, 2000, 03:50 AM
Oh yeah almost forgot to mention my network config.
Server and two workstations. I use the Asound Realtek based NIC's, and wow they are very nice! Two 100' cables run outside on the side of the house to keep out of the way, one goes to the webcam server downstairs, and the other stays upstairs to my mothers computer. Both come from the server. I use a dual speed 10/100 hub. Its a switch, hub combo, unmanaged. Basically I leave it and go somewhere http://discussions.hardwarecentral.com/smile.gif. It doesn't get warm at all, I know some can but this is a cool little jobber. Its 5 port and got it for 40 or so, nics were 16 a piece from one place, but the one I got recently was 6, 15 total, and yes they work great as I said. Anyhow just sharing my config, oh yeah hehe I have dialup and well I stay connected for a few days at a time, then get disconnected. 120 hours I stayed connected once. RARE!
JW
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Details
October 27th, 2000, 11:21 PM
Thanks,
I really appreciate all the info. I am going to buy windows ME this weekend. I hope this all stays the same. I am thinking of using the HUB and 2 NIC in the main comp and 1 NIC in the other comp. It's just for gaming and internet browsing; nothing too important, hehehehe.
I really appreciate the detail. I am worried about the project but I think it will go well. Thanks