I honestly have to go look in my Device Maneger to see, its been so long....
Abit Nforce2 Ultra Board
Barton Mobile@2400 (think it was 1800mhz stock)
1GB PC3200
*New GForce 6800 GT@Ultra
2 80GB 7200 SATA Hitachi Drive in Raid0 with 8mb cache each
Some DVD Drive
32x Burner
and my 5 or 6 maybe 7 year old SBLive Value sound card!
What you got?
insanityfell
January 7th, 2005, 02:29 AM
see sig
Jeffy79
January 7th, 2005, 03:19 AM
Athlon 64 4000+
MSI K8N Neo2 Plat.
1GB Corsair XMS PC3200
Geforce 6800GT
74GB WD Raptor SATA
160GB Seagate SATA
Samsung DVD-ROM
48X Sony CD-ROM
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz
Coolermaster Power supply
I think thats it, its the most stable system I have ever built, and used. Its solid as a rock, and quite fast.
Building 2.4GHz celeron-D system for my mum with dual channel ddr on i865. Basically a upgrade for her older PIII-t @ 1.2GHz.
Celeron-D's are about like the first PIV's performence wise. I would have made her a tbred or sempron system if I would not have bought the celeron-D first thinking it would work in a Dell i845 mobo.
I have been building a few AMD systems these days. Not bad:D
OneEng
January 7th, 2005, 06:27 AM
Barton 2500+
ASUS A7N Delux
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
SATA 37Gb Western Digital Hard drive
Audigy2 Platinum Pro (I am a musician)
Delta 1010 8 channel audio PCI recording
1Gb DDR400 RAM
Laptop IBM T40 (1.5GHz)
USSVoyager
January 7th, 2005, 07:02 AM
Haha, the good old system posts :D
I've got:
Barton XP2500+ @ 2.11GHz
Asus A7N8X-X
1GB PC3200
GeForce 4 Ti4200@4600ish specs
SB Live Value (good cards, hey Dean :))
60 and 80GB Seagate Barracudas
and all the rest...
My Barton used to run fine at 2.2GHz, but my Asus board has some kind of fault where the memory won't run over 192MHz when a DIMM is in a slot other than DIMM3 (and I just upgraded from a single 512MB the other week). I always thought it was my stick of Twinmos being a bit incompatible, so it's too late now to send the board back :(
Anyway, I don't anticipate changes those system specs for a while. Maybe when dual cores are a bit more standard :)
DEAN
January 7th, 2005, 11:49 AM
Lots of Barton Mobiles still around, what can you say to a 2200-2400 K7 with 512L2 cache, its still very powerfull.....
wetling
January 7th, 2005, 12:30 PM
My signature is up to date.
Tuxy
January 7th, 2005, 01:01 PM
See my sig.
Luds
January 7th, 2005, 01:55 PM
A64 3000+
9800 Pro
1 gig Corsair XMS
74 gig 10k Raptor
TB Santa Cruz
ThreeOnTheTree
January 7th, 2005, 02:26 PM
Just finished this build:
Athlon64 3000+ Newcastle
MSI K8N Neo Platinum NF3 250gb
512mb PC4000 HyperX (which won't hit DDR500 on this board, %%$#@!)
AOpen GeForce FX5900XT flashed to 480/800 (stock 390/700)
SB Live! 5.1 digital
40gb IDE Maxtor (which I might replace with a SATA drive)
Antec TruePower 430W
Red and Blue cold cathodes in a Antec LanBoy case. :D
So far, so good. It's a little strange dealing with a cpu with an IMC, but I'm getting an idea of what I'm doing finally. :)
DEAN
January 7th, 2005, 02:44 PM
Whats the difference "User Wise" with an IMC vs. Non IMC, I would think alot better speed in memory intensive stuff like photoshop ect...?
jankerson
January 7th, 2005, 03:06 PM
See Sig.
And I have a Dell LT coming :D
Model 5160
2.8GHz P4M
512 MB DDR
DVD/CDRW combo
30 Gb HD
15" Display
32MB NVIDIA GEFORCE FX GO 5200
XP PRO
And I still Have my Dual processor P3 1000 Fileserver. 1GB ram 5 Seagate Cheetahs
Whats the difference "User Wise" with an IMC vs. Non IMC, I would think alot better speed in memory intensive stuff like photoshop ect...?
I use photoshop quite a bit on this A64 3000+ laptop. Can't say the IMC seems to do much, though. Pretty much, whatever I do either fits in RAM and is instantanious (at least to human perception) or hits the scratch disk, and takes a long, long time.
I can vouch for the 5400 RMP mobile drives though. When I turned the Fujisu HP sent me into a USB2 external and replaced it with this 5400 RMP Seagate, those scratching operations really did get quite a bit quicker. Also lost 15 mins of battery life, but it still has about 3:40 so I'm satisfied.
-Brendan
ThreeOnTheTree
January 7th, 2005, 04:38 PM
User wise, just figuring out how to OC it, setting good memory timings, etc. The HT bus can be a mystery as well. You'd think that OCing the HTT would result in a faster HT bus, but from what I've read, your OCing success changes little whether you reduce it or not. I have a certain familiarity with the "traditional" full-northbridge boards, so figuring out how to work the IMC is the tricky part. Maybe I'm just ignorant about it. So far, I've had little time to practice, since I've been working 16 hour days most of the week and might do it again tomorrow. Darn those pesky ice storms. :rolleyes:
TaNG
January 10th, 2005, 08:29 AM
I definitely need to upgrade soon..
flat-v8
January 10th, 2005, 10:55 AM
My main rig:
NF7 w/Barton 2500 mobile @2610 1.8v
SLK900A w/Delta 80x38 100+CFM
PowerColor 9800SE w/unlocked 8 pipes & Omega Drivers
1GB KingMax PC-3500 (2 512s in dual channel)
80 GB WDJB
Liteon burner
Samsung DVD drive
Old IDE internal Zip-100
floppy
Sony 20" crt trinitron
lots of fans
XP pro SP-2
woodman19_99
January 10th, 2005, 11:14 AM
Once all the parts come (TODAY!):
A64 3500, 90nm w/ XP-120
Asus A8n-SLI Deluxe
4x 512mb Corsair PC4000, 3-4-4-8 (Already Have)
2x 256mb XfX 6800GT's in SLI
1x 250GB Maxtor10, 16mb Cache, NCQ
Antec 480W Neo Power, modular
Plextor Premium CD Burner, 52x32x52
Plextor 716A DVD Burner
Pioneer Slot Feed DVD Player (Already Have)
Martin_89
January 10th, 2005, 11:54 AM
Athlon XP-M 2500+ @ 2.2GHz (200X11@1.6v)
1024MB Geil PC3200
Asus S7N8X Deluxe (Uber Modded Bios 1007)
200GB Seagate 7200.7 SATA 7200RPM 8MB Cache
Sapphire ATI Radeon 9600XT 128MB @ 520/350
Antec Plusview with 350Watt Enermax PSU
LG 16X52 DVD Rom
LG 52X32X52 CD-RW
Benq 16X Dual Layer DVD-RW
Windows XP Pro SP2
LG FLATRON L1715S 17" LCD
JCviggen
January 10th, 2005, 12:01 PM
A64 3200+ Clawhammer 1M @ 9x260 1.75V
DFI NF3
2xMushkin 3500 lvl2 silver @ 260 MHz 2-2-2-10 3.38V
ATi 9800SE AIW @ 8 pipes 400/360
2x120 GB HD (sold my raptors)
NEC 2500
Lian Li PC60
Da_man
January 11th, 2005, 03:40 AM
32-way 50Mhz 486 Beowolf cluster. super pi in 10 minuites..
kidding, see sig
Richard R.
January 11th, 2005, 08:42 AM
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jankerson
January 16th, 2005, 05:22 AM
Well to tell you the truth I built my P4 3.06 machine back in April 2003 and still don't see the need to upgrade as of yet. ;)
I think 3.06 Ghz is plenty fast enough and I am really getting my moneys worth out of it for sure. I has been the best choice I have ever made building a machine CPU wise. I have gotten more life out of this CPU than any other I have ever used. (Upgrading wise) :D
Specs are below in my sig.
Todd a
January 16th, 2005, 10:01 AM
Well there is my #1 system in my sig with a Vantec cooler for the graphics card and a SB Audigy on the way. Then there are my other systems:
#2
AthlonXP-M 2500+@2.08Ghz
2x512MB PC2700
Abit NF7 (nForce2 Ultra)
Radeon 9700Pro AIW
SB Audigy
Sony 52x CD W/R
DVD
19" Monitor
#6
VPR Matrix 2200A Laptop
P4 2.2Ghz
GeForce4 MX 420 Go with 32MB SDR
Combo Drive
15.2" wide screan LCD
11Mb Wireless "B"
30GB hard drive
512MB DDR
I have a 5 port 10/100 hub + 11Mb wireless router and a 5 port switch connecting everything to each other and me 3MB cable modem. I am looking to add a second 250GB hard drive and ATI TV Wondoer Elite to my main system and upgrade the graphics around the end of the year. :D
The L12 socket mod has given me a lot of new fun. Thought I was stuck at 2.3 at upper voltages. Put 1 strand of copper speaker wire in ah28>ah30, and was shocked that the voltage I put in the bios translated to .10v less at the cpu. I can do 2.5 with higher temps/more RPMs (and noise), and have posted 2.6.
I'm limited to 217 FSB w/Corsair at my 2.8vdimm max. BH-5 was said to be out of style for A64, but just read that it's giving amazing results on the new NF4.
I'll stick with Socket A while A64 matures, maybe try one more MB with higher vdimm. For now I'm happy at 2.4 with my Enermaxes running Quiet 1000 RPMs. :)
Hoyle
January 16th, 2005, 12:26 PM
Well to tell you the truth I built my P4 3.06 machine back in April 2003 and still don't see the need to upgrade as of yet.
The upshot to stagnant technology. Here you are going on two years and the best thing you could buy would only be some 25-30% faster.
To think, I once had a twice the speed for 1/2 the price upgrade policy. That got me from my 486 to my K6, from that to my K6-2, from that to the Duron, to the T-bird... all in about six years.
Then, waiting for something 2x the performance of the 1.25 GHz T-bird for $50 was a bit of a stretch (although possible now). I broke the rules and bought this laptop. Since then, the max has gone from 3700+ tp 4000+. At this rate, my next mobile upgrade (should be about 6000+ for under $600) could be three-five years away.
jankerson
January 16th, 2005, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by Hoyle
The upshot to stagnant technology. Here you are going on two years and the best thing you could buy would only be some 25-30% faster.
Yep that was my point. ;)
Other than maybe a Video card later this year I don't see me upgrading at all.
ThreeOnTheTree
January 16th, 2005, 01:50 PM
Hey, xroyal! Wasn't sure you still hung around here. Had nothing to say, or have you been too busy to say it? :)
Martin_89
January 16th, 2005, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by jankerson
Well to tell you the truth I built my P4 3.06 machine back in April 2003 and still don't see the need to upgrade as of yet. ;)
I think 3.06 Ghz is plenty fast enough and I am really getting my moneys worth out of it for sure. I has been the best choice I have ever made building a machine CPU wise. I have gotten more life out of this CPU than any other I have ever used. (Upgrading wise) :D
Specs are below in my sig.
Thats the joy of buying the best money can buy at the time, you get a long life from it.
from 2003 i have went though 3 CPU's (Athlon XP 1600+, Duron 1600 and XP-M 2500+)
Todd a
January 16th, 2005, 06:03 PM
Yes but even though the CPU market has slowed a bit, the rest of the market is still going. I like my newSATA2 250GB 16MB cache hard drive. I also like my dual layer 16xDVD recorder. I also am anctous to get the ATI TV Wonder Elite the second it hits the market. I also like having a CPU that I can actually passively cool that smokes my AthlonXP-M 2500+@2.08Ghz. I think is the best jump in CPU technology. A lot of people do not beleive me, but I think the new Rev E will rival the Dothan in power use and heat. Come on look at the heatsinks for the Athlon64. It is a pretty good sized heatsink with a noisy fan on top and a solid copper base. The FX cooler is even bigger and adds heatpipes. The new 90nm Athlon64 comes with a heatsink like the first, but only aluminum, no coper, and a slightly quieter fan. Even with the thermal pad I got great temps (>50'C), with Q-Fan setting the fan at 1/5th normal speed. Lets see a P4 3.6 with its much larger heatsink with solid copper core stay under 70'C under full load. The new "E" stepping could use a low profile heatsink and a slower fan yet as it is supposed to draw 25% less power. My heatsink does not even get warm unless I unplug the fan.
Then ther is specilized system/cases, case mods, and the graphics card market has not slowed that much.... There is a lot of room for expansion still. :D
jankerson
January 16th, 2005, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by Martin_89
Thats the joy of buying the best money can buy at the time, you get a long life from it.
from 2003 i have went though 3 CPU's (Athlon XP 1600+, Duron 1600 and XP-M 2500+)
Yeah I have gotten alot of life out of it sofar. :D
dmm
January 17th, 2005, 01:26 AM
Been a looooooong time with this setup:
Epox 8RDA+ nForce2 Ultra chipset
Athlon XP-M @ 2400 mhz
1 Gig Geil PC 433
Maxtor 40 gig HDD 7200 RPM 8 Meg cache
2 IBM Deskstar 80 gig SATA Raid 1
PCI SATA controller (SG 3112 chip)
nForce 5.1 Sound
GeForce 5900XT Graphics Card
NEC 5210a 8X Dual Layer DVD burner
Dave
scneill
January 17th, 2005, 08:15 PM
going on 5 years
p3 733eb
asus p3v4x
384 mb ram (was 512, a stick went bad)
80 gb drive
40 gb drive that just died
sb live that just died
cdrw
dvd
BRAND NEW enermax noisetaker 375w psu (its sweet!!)
geforce3 ti200
hehehe... i don't play games on the pc much anymore, this comp is ROCK SOLID for practically anything else
xroyal
January 17th, 2005, 09:48 PM
Hi Tree,
No, just wandered off to some other sites to learn more tweaking. Also have spent a lot of time working on my girlfriend's house, leading to a swell Reverse Mortgage closing last Fri. Our banks may take a serious bath with the loans they're extending.
Had some fun fooling with a new MSI Delta2 and an Albatron, but decided to stick with my trusty, year old Soltek. It's a sweetheart.
Not much new going on with these toys, including A64, for me. Except for maybe games, guess the software designers are on an extended holiday. Sort of reminds me of the new HDTV toys, all hardware, little worthwile content.
See OneEng is holding on to his Socket A rig too. My sentiments exactly.
Hope AMD can save some face with tomorrow's earnings report!
jamie31
January 18th, 2005, 06:37 PM
I think computer should be used for educational purpose only. For gaming it pretty much amount to being useless and unproductive.
Don't get me wrong, its just that its no longer about performance but rather funtionality. haha had I not had a little money to burn, I still be using a celeron 366 or K6-2 500 today still
Never forget, one man's trash is another man's treasure! :D
ThreeOnTheTree
January 18th, 2005, 10:34 PM
I think computer should be used for educational purpose only. For gaming it pretty much amount to being useless and unproductive.
Don't get me wrong, its just that its no longer about performance but rather funtionality. haha had I not had a little money to burn, I still be using a celeron 366 or K6-2 500 today still
Never forget, one man's trash is another man's treasure!
This is true, but time is a treasure as well. If playing games is a way that people have fun passing the time, then I say go for it. ;)
jankerson
March 18th, 2005, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by Hoyle
The upshot to stagnant technology. Here you are going on two years and the best thing you could buy would only be some 25-30% faster.
Hoyle,
I had to upgrade so to speak as my old Intel 850E motherboard died this week.
So I went ahead and replaced the CPU, ram and Motherboard.
Went from the 3.06 GHz Northwood, 850E chipset, and 1066 RDRAM to a 3.0E Prescott Model 530J, 865PE Chipset, and DDR 400.
Hoyle
March 18th, 2005, 03:35 PM
I had to upgrade so to speak as my old Intel 850E motherboard died this week.
That's terrible. I wouldn't figure it was old enough to die already (and I'm surrounded by 200-800 Mhz Office computers)!
But, the faster FSB is not a bad investment anyway.
I'm currently shopping for Entry level servers (again). Once again, favoring Dell - since you can get one of their SC1420s fairly well loaded for about $1000. I can't get a 2-CPU capable board, a Xeon, a pair of HDDs, and a GB of ECCDDR2 for that much - never mind the case and other bits and pieces. Unless you consider a Uniproc S940 board "2C capable" anyway. Still, Opteron kit is quite costly, and for these remote-desktop stations SMT really does smooth things a bit.
jankerson
March 18th, 2005, 04:03 PM
Servers again. :D
Cool I like servers. :)
I think it was all the times the power clicked off and on over the last 3 years or so, it took alot of power hits so who knows.
I got a HUGE increase in speed with this new setup, very noticeable. :D
And I can go put an 3.8 GHz+ Prescott on this board if I want to. Thats why I went with the Socket 775, it gives me alot of room. :)
Edit:
It runs cooler than my Northwood did too. ;)
ol' man
March 18th, 2005, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by jankerson
Servers again. :D
Cool I like servers. :)
I think it was all the times the power clicked off and on over the last 3 years or so, it took alot of power hits so who knows.
I got a HUGE increase in speed with this new setup, very noticeable. :D
And I can go put an 3.8 GHz+ Prescott on this board if I want to. Thats why I went with the Socket 775, it gives me alot of room. :)
Edit:
It runs cooler than my Northwood did too. ;)
Hey jankerson, what are you going to do with the 3.06?
jankerson
March 18th, 2005, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by ol' man
Hey jankerson, what are you going to do with the 3.06?
What you want it?
ol' man
March 18th, 2005, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by jankerson
What you want it?
Well I have a extra mobo laying around that could use it. I also have a wife that likes to beat me in my sleep.
:D
Maybe in a few months after I graduate if you still got it and want to part with it.
:D:D
jankerson
March 18th, 2005, 05:21 PM
:D
Alien-X
March 19th, 2005, 04:21 AM
See sig.
Oliy
March 19th, 2005, 09:47 AM
Desktop:
AMD Athlon XP Barton 2500+ at 2.15GHz
Asus A7N8X-X
512mb generic PC3200 at 215MHz CL 2.5
ATI 9600 at 9600 Pro/XT
Some other stuff not worth mentioning
Mobile:
Fujitsu-Siemens Stylistic 5010 Tablet
Intel Pentium-M 1GHz ULV Banias at 0.844V (steps to 360MHz at 0.7V)
256MB PC2700 (doubling this soon)
6600mAh battery, lasts about 6 hours normal use
Some other stuff not worth mentioning
Hoyle
March 19th, 2005, 10:39 AM
I think it was all the times the power clicked off and on over the last 3 years or so, it took alot of power hits so who knows.
That's why APC and others sell these little boxes with batteries in them that smooth the incoming power. Most people don't realize how dirty power is. I don't know about you, but here in York you can see +/- 15v frequently, and several time a month we have brownouts that usually last .5-1.5 seconds and know out anything is isn't protected. Most (good) UPC boxes do more than just surge protecting - the reason the power is uninterruptable is because the PCs are _always_ running off the inverter running off the batteries. But when AC power is on, the batteries are charging at the same time.
Anyway, we have on 150lb box that gives us about fifteen minutes on our six "Critical" servers.
And I can go put an 3.8 GHz+ Prescott on this board if I want to. Thats why I went with the Socket 775, it gives me alot of room.
In my current investigations I've considered these, but finally I figured that the drop-in-a=2nd-CPU capability for the Xeon was a better upgrade path for a multi-TSclient machine. More users = more threads :)
jankerson
March 19th, 2005, 10:49 AM
Oh yeah Dual Xeons are great. :D
Yes I have been thinking about an APC for along time.
Oxblood
March 19th, 2005, 09:59 PM
my sig is up to date.
The only orginal pieces of equipment in the tower
are the:
ASUS P3V4X motherboard.
Sound Blaster Live Value Card. :)
1 128 meg stick of ram.
Coming up on 6 years with the same motherboard.
I'm on my 3rd crappy powersupply, they get now rest providing juice to 4 hard drives.
My new computer will likely recieve
my dvd drive, 20 and 30 gig hard drives and the trusty Sound Blaster Live! Value.
600R
March 23rd, 2005, 04:37 PM
**** man... its been a while! what happened?!
I think I need an upgrade (check sig) :D
jankerson
March 23rd, 2005, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by 600R
**** man... its been a while! what happened?!
I think I need an upgrade (check sig) :D
:D
Yeah it has been awhile. :)
600R
March 23rd, 2005, 04:58 PM
Must say, I was quite impressed my account still works :) Some nice sounding systems you all have, although its all quite foreign to me these days :confused:
I've been reading up on the latest technology for the past while, been out of touch with it all for so long. Going to build myself a new AMD rig soon, seeing they've always served me well in the past. What are these new Athlon 64's like for clocking?
jankerson
March 23rd, 2005, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by 600R
I've been reading up on the latest technology for the past while, been out of touch with it all for so long. Going to build myself a new AMD rig soon, seeing they've always served me well in the past. What are these new Athlon 64's like for clocking?
They clock pretty well from what I have been seeing here.
Sounds good to me. :D
You have to stick around more like you used to. :)
600R
March 23rd, 2005, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by jankerson
They clock pretty well from what I have been seeing here.
Sounds good to me. :D
You have to stick around more like you used to. :)
Yup... I think you'll be seeing me on here a bit more frequently in the next while. This forum used to be part of my daily routine in my college days, work commitments and stuff has changed that though :mad:
I think im going to give things a couple of months before an upgrade, as i'd like to get back into the "feel" of all the current hardware and technology :)
Its good to see all the old names still on here as well :)
jankerson
March 23rd, 2005, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by 600R
Yup... I think you'll be seeing me on here a bit more frequently in the next while. This forum used to be part of my daily routine in my college days, work commitments and stuff has changed that though :mad:
I think im going to give things a couple of months before an upgrade, as i'd like to get back into the "feel" of all the current hardware and technology :)
Its good to see all the old names still on here as well :)
Yep we are all still here, well most of us anyway. :)
Glad to see you back. :D
Martin_89
March 23rd, 2005, 06:24 PM
i dont need an upgrade and probably wouldnt for the next atleast 1-2 years but i want a S939 A64 just for showing off mostly!
grrrr, i hate benchmarks :D
evetsrim1
March 23rd, 2005, 09:58 PM
P4 3.06 @ up to 3.3 ghz, HT
512 rdram 1066mhz
Iwill PN533 mobo
Leadtek A6600GT-TDH 128mb AGP
3 7200rpm IDE HD, 240gb total, 8mb cache
Audigy sound card
Monsoon 5+1 speakers
Logiteck mx300 mouse
10 USB 2.0
1 Firewire
Comcast cable
flat bed scanner, 11x17 printer
2 digital camera's, 1 dv camcorder, 1 Hi-8
TV card, 256mb memory stick
combo cdrom
Dual boot, XP SP2, ME
Hyundai 19" monitor, 1200x1600 32bit @85hz
1 90MM fan @ 2800RPM, 1 120MM fan @1800rpm
Enermax 435w power supply
Thermalright XP-90 HS
Custom case, 1'-4x2'x2' Part. Bd., ducted
2004 Scisoft Sandra PR: 4400
Todd a
March 24th, 2005, 08:50 AM
Man 600R that is close to my #5 LAN party system... Duron 600@900, Abit KT7, GeForce2 GTS. It is still a good system though. :)
600R
March 24th, 2005, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by Todd a
Man 600R that is close to my #5 LAN party system... Duron 600@900, Abit KT7, GeForce2 GTS. It is still a good system though. :)
Yeah, this unit has served me well, its been overclocked for so long and still its completely rock solid. I havent touched it for a long time, aside from fitting a new hard disk due to power up issues with the old one, IBM 33GXP i think it was. Dont think it will cut it with the new games, but hey, I dont play like I used to anymore anyhow.
AMDnut
March 31st, 2005, 08:55 AM
Sig is current, but new Shuttle A64 is in the shop now.....
Parts are rolling in weekly and I will be building this shortly:
Shuttle SN85G4v3
A64 - ? (not sure what proc. yet...)
Maxtor 250 GB w/16mb cache
512mb Giel PC3500 Ultra
NEC 16x DVD-RW DL
Radeon 9600 Pro
Should be sweet! Trying to keep it budget, the Shuttle was a NewEgg special for $155!
AMDnut
March 31st, 2005, 08:57 AM
600R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Man, it has been a looooooong time!
Still riding? I am currently riding a 2003 Yamaha TTR-250 and looking for a nice WR-450 deal.
Glad to see you back!
600R
March 31st, 2005, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by AMDnut
600R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Man, it has been a looooooong time!
Still riding? I am currently riding a 2003 Yamaha TTR-250 and looking for a nice WR-450 deal.
Glad to see you back!
Hey man, its good to see you are still on here! It really has been a while, i'll never forget this place though :) yup, still riding! i've still got the 96 XR600, going for a Honda CRF450 soon, was on a WR450 supermoto recently, they go really well when you rev them! Also got my bike license so could be out on the roads this summer. Currently training for a 5 day team XC event on mountain bike, its going to be tough!!
Hows things with yourself?
jankerson
March 31st, 2005, 08:21 PM
Updated System, Specs in my Sig. :D
http://img168.exs.cx/img168/7006/pc11xx.jpg
http://img168.exs.cx/img168/8500/pc23ah.jpg
http://img168.exs.cx/img168/7001/pc34jf.jpg
http://img168.exs.cx/img168/7454/pc44ug.jpg
Todd a
March 31st, 2005, 08:52 PM
You need to stealth those drives (and get rid of the floppy). :D
Man you also need to cut out those fan grills too. :p
jankerson
March 31st, 2005, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by Todd a
You need to stealth those drives (and get rid of the floppy). :D
Man you also need to cut out those fan grills too. :p
:p
jankerson
March 31st, 2005, 09:10 PM
Todd,
What do you mean Stealth my drives?
Get a new case?
ThreeOnTheTree
March 31st, 2005, 09:25 PM
I think he means hide them so that their beige color doesn't clash with the silver case. I think if you are creative, you can use the drive bay covers that come with the case.
jankerson
March 31st, 2005, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by ThreeOnTheTree
I think he means hide them so that their beige color doesn't clash with the silver case. I think if you are creative, you can use the drive bay covers that come with the case.
Oh,
Well maybe a new case with a door on the front to hide the drives would be better. I have had this case for awhile now.
Todd a
March 31st, 2005, 10:37 PM
If the case came with covers for those CD bays, you move the CD back a bit and attach the bay cover onto the try on the CD/DVD with something like velcro or double sided tape and put a peg or something over the eject button so when you press the lower right hand corner of the cover, the drive will open. It looks like you have no drives... hence the "stealth" name for the mod. Here is some instructions:
Have you had a look at the Coolermaster Wave Master or Cavalier 1 cases? I think they look pretty damn nice. Bit pricey, but when I next get a case, I think I might get one of them, cos I think they look a lot nicer than all those tacky cases with windows and plastic vents in the front (no offense to anyone who has a case with a window or vents in it :))
Wave Master (http://www.coolermaster.com/index.php?LT=english&Language_s=2&url_place=product&p_serial=TAC-T01&other_title=TAC-T01Wave%20Master)
Cavalier 1 (http://www.coolermaster.com/index.php?LT=english&Language_s=2&url_place=product&p_serial=CAV-T01&other_title=+CAV-T01+Cavalier%201) - I'd get the Cavalier 1 without the analogue dial on the front, for the record :)
Yeah, that's the one I'm thinking about. Looks pretty smart, I think. Hides all the drives and stuff too. I like minimalist.
My current case is an all smooth beige thing, with a flap to hide the drives off. Had it for over 5 years now - I'm only considering changing it cos everything else on my desk has slowly turned silver over the years :)
All these current cases with windows and vents and stuff, they remind me of trainers you can buy in sports shops. Most of the expensive ones look stupid and over the top. I always go for plain trainers (which are luckily a lot cheaper too :))
jankerson
April 1st, 2005, 07:58 AM
Yeah I hear you. :D
It's alittle cheaper than the other one I was thinking about too and it looks nicer overall.
Hmmmm. ;)
jankerson
April 1st, 2005, 08:10 AM
I Only thing I am worried about is the HD mounts, I have 3 HD's, 2 of them SCSI, one is a X15 15k Cheetah. Not sure if they would stay cool enough. :confused:
a13antichrist
April 1st, 2005, 08:18 AM
Isn't that one the Cav. 3? It's the 1 & 2 that have the sound pressure dial, no? Thinking of getting the 2 (desktop version) for my HTPC rig...
T-bird 1Ghz@1.33; will do 1.5 but no spare board at the moment..
Duron 950@1100
Duron 650@866
PIII-500
Currently looking at swapping in a mobile Barton in place of the 2100 & putting a couple more together in a dual rig for Gknot.. :)
jankerson
April 1st, 2005, 08:24 AM
Originally posted by a13antichrist
[B]Isn't that one the Cav. 3? It's the 1 & 2 that have the sound pressure dial, no? Thinking of getting the 2 (desktop version) for my HTPC rig...
Yes it's the Cav 3. :)
jankerson
April 1st, 2005, 08:40 AM
USSVoyager,
I went ahead and ordered the Cav 3. :D
AMDnut
April 1st, 2005, 09:52 AM
600R -
Going well, switched to the Shuttle SFF world a while back which has been interesting. I like the quiet!
Watch those CRF models, they are prone to valve issues. We have several around the area that have suffered the valve problems. It is the UNIcam design they use.... the CRF-X models seem to hold up much better. The X models with the lights are not usually used in the high rev world of Motocross so they tend to last longer. Right now, Honda says new top end every 30 hours! The off-road X models get much more, plus they are quieter...
I have been also considering a Suzuki DRZ-400E as they are known for reliability. I barely have time to ride, so I need as little wrench time as possible. :D
USSVoyager
April 1st, 2005, 12:05 PM
USSVoyager,
I went ahead and ordered the Cav 3.
From the looks of it, I think you made a good choice. Let me know how you get on with it when it arrives. Maybe some nice photos too? :)
jankerson
April 1st, 2005, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by USSVoyager
From the looks of it, I think you made a good choice. Let me know how you get on with it when it arrives. Maybe some nice photos too? :)
Will do. :)
Monsieur DeLarge
April 2nd, 2005, 11:05 AM
What I'm running now, possible future upgrades in parentheses...
Best bargain I ever had. Bought the processors on eBay in 2003 - they were unused, ex-Compaq CPUs, still sealed in their packaging; £140 for the pair when retail was about £180 each. Actually, I ended up with both processors and £120 in my pocket, but that's another story (http://forums.2cpu.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42567).
:D
After 18 months of 24/7 operation, I still get CPU temps in the low 40s with 2000rpm HS fans, despite the >30% overclock. And they're still competitive with any top end machinery I could buy today. Pretty much like jankerson, basically. It used to take 6-12 months for the fastest single CPU to catch up with my cumulative clockspeed, but no-one's getting close to 5.8GHz yet after all this time (although dual-cores will change all that).
Regards,
DeLarge
equinoxe3d
April 2nd, 2005, 06:04 PM
See sig...
It's my first true permanent overclock ever so don't laugh please :o Anyways, my goal was to run 3GHz stable with good memory bandwidth. I've had it OC'ed for 4 days and I've just finished to tune it stable (17hr of dual primes passed)
jankerson
April 2nd, 2005, 07:24 PM
And they're still competitive with any top end machinery I could buy today. Pretty much like jankerson, basically.
Yeah I just didn't see the point of getting a CPU faster than 3 GHz when my old MB blew up. The interesting thing was that my 3.0E Prescott retail box was like $178 and the 3.06Ghz NW are selling for $245 OEM. I sold my NW on Ebay for $189 and I had it for over 3 years. ;)
So I made out on the deal, got a large increase in system speed staying at 3 GHz and I am more than happy with it. :D
jankerson
April 2nd, 2005, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by equinoxe3d
See sig...
It's my first true permanent overclock ever so don't laugh please :o Anyways, my goal was to run 3GHz stable with good memory bandwidth. I've had it OC'ed for 4 days and I've just finished to tune it stable (17hr of dual primes passed)
Nice overclock. :)
evetsrim1
April 2nd, 2005, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by jankerson
Yeah I just didn't see the point of getting a CPU faster than 3 GHz when my old MB blew up. The interesting thing was that my 3.0E Prescott retail box was like $178 and the 3.06Ghz NW are selling for $245 OEM. I sold my NW on Ebay for $189 and I had it for over 3 years. ;)
So I made out on the deal, got a large increase in system speed staying at 3 GHz and I am more than happy with it. :D
The 3.06 P4 had a 1 week period where it sold for as low as $169 a few months back, I bought one @$169 to keep my old mobo and try HT.
I suspect many people go that route to keep their old mobo.
What is the speed increase you get by a Prescott 3.0, the memory is faster probably by 3-5%, but any other speed increase and does it run hotter. I bought a Thermalright xp-90 hs and that lowered my idle temps 5-9c verse the thermalright 948u I had, it is very large, all aluminum, 4 heatpipes but fits all motherboards and for $37 is cheap and no air cooler is rated higher, so good i think i could run it without a fan, as is I run a 2500 rpm fan.
jankerson
April 2nd, 2005, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by evetsrim1
The 3.06 P4 had a 1 week period where it sold for as low as $169 a few months back, I bought one @$169 to keep my old mobo and try HT.
I suspect many people go that route to keep their old mobo.
What is the speed increase you get by a Prescott 3.0, the memory is faster probably by 3-5%, but any other speed increase and does it run hotter. I bought a Thermalright xp-90 hs and that lowered my idle temps 5-9c verse the thermalright 948u I had, it is very large, all aluminum, 4 heatpipes but fits all motherboards and for $37 is cheap and no air cooler is rated higher.
From and Intel 850E chipset to an Intel 865PE chipset.
The memory is alot faster going from PC1066 RDRAM to Dual channel DDR 400 (PC3200).
The FBS increase going from 533mhz to 800mhz.
From AGP 4x to AGP 8x
From 512 L2 Cache to 1mb L2 cache
SSE3 support
The whole system is much faster from the benches I have done, even in Super Pi there was a huge difference.
The Prescott eats the NW in encoding DVD's too.
And both CPUs are runing close to the same clock speed too, from 3075mhz for the NW to 3060mhz for the Prescott.
In otherwards I can get alot more done in less time. :D
My Prescott runs cooler than my NW did because the cooler is better.
jankerson
April 2nd, 2005, 08:32 PM
evetsrim1,
Here are some benchmarking from the system now with comparisons to my NW.
X800 Pro on my Rebuilt System!!!!!!! Benches (http://discussions.hardwarecentral.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=163928)
Todd a
April 2nd, 2005, 10:28 PM
The faster bus speeds likely made the most differance. AGP 4x to 8x means next to nothing in most games and applications. SSE3 and the larger cache and the DDR memory makes only a small impact. The longer pipeline hurts it though. Clock for Clock on the same bus the Prescott is usually slower... by a tiny bit, but the faster bus speed makes all the differance. The P4 thrives on a faster bus. Almost all your performance gain comes from that.
jankerson
April 2nd, 2005, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by Todd a
The faster bus speeds likely made the most differance. AGP 4x to 8x means next to nothing in most games and applications. SSE3 and the larger cache and the DDR memory makes only a small impact. The longer pipeline hurts it though. Clock for Clock on the same bus the Prescott is usually slower... by a tiny bit, but the faster bus speed makes all the differance. The P4 thrives on a faster bus. Almost all your performance gain comes from that.
Yeah we figured that one out with Super Pi and my Video Card tests remember Todd? :D
It's really the total banwith increase going from 533 to 800 FBS. :)
jankerson
April 2nd, 2005, 10:46 PM
I do think it is noteworthy that my Prescott @ 3060mhz is only 2 secs behind a 3.0C @3500mhz in superpi looking at our Super Pi contest. :D
Figure that one out, the 3.0C is running at alot higher bus speed than 800mhz and overclocked 500mhz.
Kinda counters all the reviews I have read, thats why I go more on real life other than reviews most of the time.
...and I have speakers and keyboards and such also. ;)
Todd a
April 3rd, 2005, 05:37 PM
Super Pi is not a tell all benchmark. In real word applications there is vertually no differance between the two at the same clock and bus speed. Your was mostly a boost in bus speed for your performance jump.
jankerson
April 3rd, 2005, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by Todd a
Super Pi is not a tell all benchmark. In real word applications there is vertually no differance between the two at the same clock and bus speed. Your was mostly a boost in bus speed for your performance jump.
Todd,
I pointed that out because the 3.0C is on a 800 FBS like the 3.0E.
Thats why I brought it up. ;)
So the starting point was the same @ 3 ghz and 800mhz FBS.
ol' man
April 3rd, 2005, 07:11 PM
jank, did you notice that gluss was only 5 seconds ahead of me @ 3.7GHz.
The prescott can use sse3 with super pi. Northwood cannot.
Did you happen to use sse3?
glussier
April 3rd, 2005, 07:15 PM
The prescott can use sse3 with super pi. Northwood cannot.
But I wasn't using the sse3 patch. With the sse3 patch My P4 does 25sec instead of the 32sec I have reported.
ol' man
April 3rd, 2005, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by glussier
But I wasn't using the sse3 patch. With the sse3 patch My P4 does 25sec instead of the 32sec I have reported.
Yes I figured that. I am saying that maybe jank was using the patch.
jankerson
April 3rd, 2005, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by ol' man
Yes I figured that. I am saying that maybe jank was using the patch.
Yeah without it I got 43 sec. ;)
I gained 4 seconds using it. :)
ol' man
April 3rd, 2005, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by jankerson
Yeah without it I got 43 sec. ;)
I gained 4 seconds using it. :)
Okay. I figured. Then at stock speeds my 3.0 got similar to yours. The prescott dose pretty well though in super_pi because of the extra cache.
jankerson
April 4th, 2005, 07:35 AM
Originally posted by ol' man
Okay. I figured. Then at stock speeds my 3.0 got similar to yours. The prescott dose pretty well though in super_pi because of the extra cache.
Yeah it does.
I wonder how one of those P4 600's would do with 2mb Cache?
Hmmmm...
BadBrain
April 4th, 2005, 02:32 PM
Wow, it's been a while since I posted at good 'ol HWC. I'm too lazy to check my sig to see if it's still up to date. It probably is mostly but I've added a few parts here and there. Here are my current specs:
2500+ Barton @ 2350mhz
Abit NF7-S v 2.0 (nforce 2 ultra)
1024 mb PC-3500 DDR
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
Audigy 2 ZS
Primary HD -- ATA-100 45 GB IBM 75GXP Deathstar (4.5 years old and still running strong...knock wood)
Secondary HD -- 120 GB Western Digital ATA-133
Liteon SOHW-1633S -- 16x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW
Plextor 12/10/32 CD-RW
Razer Diamondback optical mouse
Lian-Li PC-68 case
Antec True Power 480 Watt PS
17" CRT monitor
WindowsXP Home
The fundamentals of this system are almost 2 years old but it's still suprisingly robust. Some of the parts, like the monitor and CD-RW are more than 4 years old. I really lust after a socket-939 PCI-e mobo, A64, and Geforce 6800GT or Radeon X800XL but the cost/benefit just isn't there at this point. Who'd have thunk a last gen system like mine would still perform so well. Of course, with an 18-month-old daughter, wife only working part-time so she can stay home with the baby, and a new house (bought last summer), I can't just piss away a couple thousand bucks on PC parts whenever I feel like it -- like I could when I was a bachelor. By next summer though I'll definitely have a new system (though I'll plunder as many parts from this one as possible)...it'll probably be some dual-core thingy etc.
jankerson
April 4th, 2005, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by USSVoyager
From the looks of it, I think you made a good choice. Let me know how you get on with it when it arrives. Maybe some nice photos too? :)
Yep got it in today and put it all together. Went easy.
Here is the Link with Picts in the Cases, Cooling, and Overclocking forum.
New Cooler Master Case (http://discussions.hardwarecentral.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=164288)